MONZA, Italy -- Sebastian Vettel says he was on the limit for the lap which helped him beat Ferrari teammate Kimi Raikkonen to third on the grid for the Italian Grand Prix.With Ferrari fighting for best of the rest at its home grand prix, Vettel found himself down on Raikkonen after the initial Q3 runs. Vettel improved on his final run, moving 0.1s clear of Raikkonen despite a wide moment on the exit of the Parabolica.The lap was four tenths shy of Nico Roberg in the second Mercedes and 0.8s off Hamilton on pole, but Vettel says he was close to maximum attack.First of all I wasnt too happy with the first shot in Q3, sort of lost the rhythm a bit and wasnt able to get it back, Vettel explained. Had a good lap... Went just on the limit at the final corner and was a bit late going on the throttle.Not a great start, not a great first sector, it was missing that little bit from Q2. I brought it back in sector two and sector three.Obviously very happy for us to lock out the second row as a team. Not entirely happy as the gap is quite big to those guy ahead, looks like they are in a world of their own today, but who knows what happens tomorrow.Vettel hopes he and Raikkonen can repay the tifosi for their support on Sunday.Its great to see that weve got so much support. Last year was phenomenal and this year has been even better. Every out lap you do everyone stands up and waves. Its great so see all the flags... I think the support we get here is massive. Big thanks to all the tifosi and hopefully we can give something back tomorrow. Cheap Salomon Shoes From China . But when it comes to determining if Raymond will find a place on the Leafs roster when training camp concludes in a week, well, that decision will ultimately fall to the head coach. Discount Salomon Shoes Online . 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Reality already is setting in for a few teams that opened the season with playoff aspirations.No. 23 Mississippi, No. 25 Oklahoma and Notre Dame have dropped two of their first three games after each was ranked 11th or higher in the preseason Top 25 . Its the first time in nearly two decades that three teams ranked in the top 15 before the season were below .500 three games into the year.The ultimate goals likely out of reach. How will they stay motivated?If we start focusing on what happened in the last three weeks, were probably going to hit a pretty big wall here in the next nine games, Notre Dame offensive tackle Mike McGlinchey said.CBS Sports analyst Rick Neuheisel knows how challenging it is to recover.Neuheisel coached a Colorado team in 1997 that was coming off two straight top-10 finishes and opened the year ranked eighth. The Buffaloes started 2/3 that season and finished 5-6.Youve got to get up in the morning, be ready to go and put a look on your face -- not that youre angry at your team, not that youre going to punish them because they havent met expectations -- but that were resetting our expectations, were recalibrating and were going to find our way back, Neuheisel said.The last time three preseason top-15 teams were below .500 this early was 1998, when Michigan and Arizona State started 0-2 and North Carolina lost its first three games. Michigan was fifth, Arizona State eighth and North Carolina 12th in the preseason Top 25.These types of starts could become more common in the playoff era, as teams strengthen their nonconference schedules to impress the selection committee.Oklahomas two losses came against No. 9 Houston and No. 2 Ohio State . Notre Dame lost at Texas and at home to No. 8 Michigan State . Ole Miss fell to No. 13 Florida State and No. 1 Alabama after leading by three touchdowns in both games .Becoming and being relevant, I think it creates an expectation, and that expectation results in winning celebrations or disappointing losses, Ole Miss coach Hugh Freeze said. Thats the two things youre going to get. Weve had our share of both,, and this year in September weve had the disappointing losses.ddddddddddddThe difficulty of bouncing back when a preseason top-15 team has fallen out of playoff contention is one reason why ESPN analyst and former Texas coach Mack Brown would rather see no polls released until mid-October.As a coach, Ive always been against early polls, because I think theyre very unfair, Brown said. We just dont know about the chemistry. You dont know whos going to be healthy through preseason camp.Brown said regrouping in this era is even tougher than before because so much focus is on which teams remain in the playoff hunt. Brown said bowl games that arent part of the playoff dont get as much attention as they received in the BCS era.You try to win your conference championship. ... That hope is still there, Brown said. There are great things that can still happen in the end if you win your conference championship.Of course, Notre Dame cant use that as incentive due to its independent status. Theyll need to find something else.We can still finish the regular season 10-2, Notre Dame wide receiver Torii Hunter Jr. said. Thats a great season. We finished the (regular) season 10-2 last year.For now, all three teams arent dwelling on their postseason possibilities and instead are focused on correcting the mistakes that got them to this point.Theres always the long-shot possibility they could get back in the playoff chase.Citing the 2007 LSU team that won the national title after losing two regular-season games, Neuheisel said somebody eventually will reach the playoff with more than one loss.There will be a day when a two-loss team will get there, (so they can say), `Why not us? Given the way were going to attack our preparation for the remainder of the season, who knows what can happen? Neuheisel said. You hold it out there as hope.---AP Sports Writers David Brandt in Oxford, Mississippi, and Tom Coyne in South Bend, Indiana, contributed to this report. ' ' '